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20/01/2006 09:41 and 9 + 4 + 1 = 14 which gives a 14 and 41

 

 

Dear Lor

 

I do not understand the following, but my friend Karina was talking about it yesterday and in a way I was confronted with it while I was in my first year of university as well.  Karina was talking about cause and effect.  You get a cause, then in the middle, the thing it is going to have the effect on and then the effect.  I am wondering why are we viewing things this way?  Isn’t this keeping us in the dual world?  And even as I am writing this, I do not understand it.  I do not and never could get my mind wrapped around the fact that if you view an object – which forces are exercised on that object?  I could never see the forces that was suppose to be working on an object – though apparently because if you pick up a stone and you hold it in the air and not let it be in your hand anymore, it will be because of forces working on it that it falls to the ground .  But all the other students were able to see these forces that worked in on that object that was needed for them to pass their physics course. For any force working on an object there are it seems a force from the opposite direction that are working at the same time?  And things like gravity and who knows what else?   You know what is strange, I feel again the confusing feeling I had when I did Physics at University and not being able to see what the others saw – the forces that are working on an object.

 

Anyway, I will speak again to you later.

 

LOVE

Renee

20/01/06 09:54 or 9:9.  And the date all added up gives also 9 which gives 999.

 

 

20/01/2006 10:56 and the date added this time around adds up to 11 and the end minutes also to 11.

 

Dear Lore

 

Last night we had meditation at Carol again.  The theme was Angels, but all I got was – after we had to climb a ladder,  that I was in front of that place I dreamt of that was some kind of base, that beautiful place against the mountain.  I think I have told you about that dream, I am not sure though.  But anyway, here I was in front of this huge building which seems to be related to Olympus, and there was a bird that was flying ahead of me to take me in.  This bird was yellowish with blue wings.  But the weird thing was, that this bird was flying and flying to take me in, but we were getting no where except right where we were.  Then later on I saw a woman inside a place – there were some pathway and next to the pathway on the left of the woman, was water.  This woman was dressed in some purple gown thing which covered her head as well and only her face was visible.  Then I realized but this woman and this place was inside that building against the mountain which seems to be related to Olympus in some or other way.  But I do not know why, as this woman was wearing a mask over her eyes, but I believed this woman to be you.  And this woman was carrying something in her hands in front of her.    

 

11:41  Since after my shower this morning I saw myself also on that path in that place you were in last night in my meditation.  The one I think is in the place against the mountain. Well, my head wanted me to listen to music now and it turned out to be the 4^th CD from the top and the 16^th song on that CD.   Nesse Dorma is the name of the song and the artist is Jannie Moolman.  And as I was listening to this we were only standing on that pathway next to the water – and it seems there are crocodiles in the water with no threat.  And mostly I saw the place from outside, as it is in the sun against these huge mountains – as the one part is in front but there is another part against another mountain at the back as well.  And as this song reached its peak, you started our procession to move – you, me the lions and the dogs.  Where we are going to I do not know, I just know the procession has started.  And you are in front with that type of ball of light in your hands in front of you.  And as the song ended now, the time was 11:41 (I do not know if this is of importance, but the whole time I was listening to this song no 16, I was thinking my father might arrive anytime)

 

Well, I guess I write further later…

 

LOVE

Renee

20/01/2006 11:49 or an 11 and 13

 

 

20/01/2006 15:33 or 333

 

Dear Lore

 

I just landed in the most difficult position.  With this Business Club thing I got a guy that want to go into Business Club on the highest level.  But he will be going in as our no 2.  So yesterday the guy who introduced me to Business Club went with me to see this guy as he just had a few questions still.  Then later the afternoon the guy who went with me, phoned me and said he was going to upgrade this morning. 

 

So this afternoon I thought to myself, but if we can get someone in before the guy we saw yesterday pays his money, we (me and my parents) are just going to make a fortune.  As this guy we saw yesterday will then be our no 3 and you earn big money for that, especially if he is going in on the highest level.

 

But then it started bothering me that I cannot do it to the guy, who thought that the man who is coming on the highest level is going to be our (me and my parents’) no 2 and he will earn the big money.  As he has now this morning upgraded to platinum and if I get someone to come in meantime on no 2, then he is going to be in a bad position financially because what he thought was going to come to him, will not.  Then I thought – after I also spoke to my mother about this – rather leave it as it is.  Let the guy who upgraded get the money.

 

Yes the guy he is going to get is going to earn him millions.  But maybe his task is more important that he needs the money for.  Now I just hope I did not do the wrong thing to give it to him (the one who upgraded) and that it was meant for us – as we are in financial trouble at the moment. So I hope I made the right decision to let the money go to Esteban.

 

And it is again this time of the day 15:55, so I am not feeling well – I do not know what is troubling me, it just feels as if something is troubling me.  Everyday.  And sometimes it is at its worse at about 17:00, but it starts at 15:30 up till about 19:00 or even later sometimes.

 

But I will speak to you later again.

 

LOVE

Renee

20/01/2006 15:57 or 312 or back, first, middle. (this is a clue that I received from Marion and her daughter when I was visiting in August 2003.

 

 

22/01/06 12:59 and if you look at the first time and the first of the date you get 2(2) and 1(2) and the same way if you look at rest of date, you get 1 and 6 or 7 and 14 or 5 and 7 + 5 = 12 or the 1(2) again.

 

Dear Lore

 

I am wondering about holiness.  And I wonder if we are not missing something – like if we take wholeness, or then wholiness, what is missing is the “w”, but the pronunciation will more or less stay the same?  And I told you that the “w” I view as “vv” and “v” is the 22nd letter of the English alphabet and if you put 2 of them next to each other it gives 22 22 or added, 44.

 

LOVE

Renee

22/01/2006 13:10 or 131 and I view 131 very close to 1 + 3 = 4 (22) = 3 + 1.

 

 

22/01/2006 13:22

 

Dear Lore

 

In the previous letters I told you about the Olympus thing – the “base” against the mountains and I also told you that a certain procession started.  But yesterday the whole day, I was sort of still taken from time to time to that “procession”.  But what is strange is that – like the bird I told you about that was outside that “base” flying and leading me to go inside, we are getting no where.  We are moving, but we are staying at the same place.  This is very strange.  Anyway, I do not even understand about the mountain thing or Olympus – what is Olympus anyway?  I just know that I have been in early years dreaming of going off to places to find something that had to do with a mountain.  And I only realized now that the dream I had of that “base” was what I was searching for all my life in my dreams.  And now it turns out to be only pillars that are in front of the rocks of the mountain but it makes, if you view it from where I saw it, an awesome place. But it seems it is what is going on inside – as it seemed that me and the bird were not getting anywhere, but suddenly in the meditation, I was with you, with what it seemed like, inside that mountain.

 

Anyway, I do not understand what all the above mean and if it even have a meaning at all?

 

You know what I was thinking about the other night?  I was thinking that say for instance I was the sun, then I would not be thinking in terms of night and day.  As we think night and day because the sun comes up and goes under again which gives us night and day.  But the sun does not have that.  So what is time for the sun?  We have time because we measure it with the sun – but the sun does not have that.  And now I am wondering  - if we are growing older because of time, and the sun does not have time or an understanding of it like we do, will that mean the sun is not subject to time and not subject like we are to dying?  That is if age is subject to time?  But I remember that I read that the sun has got only a certain amount of million years to burn still before it will have no burning anymore – will be no sun anymore.  But if we put it to age, how could we?  Because for the sun there is no such thing as time, especially the way we measure days and years?

 

Now I am asking myself the question, as in a previous letter I wrote how everything – even the sun for instance, is going to die – that is according to what scientists are telling us as I said above as well.  They tell us that a star has got a limited amount of “time” to burn itself out.  But we are creating that “time” as I do not know anymore if the stars are subject to what we call time? And aren’t we then creating the reality of the stars being limited because we give it an x amount of years, to be a burning star.  But are stars subject to “time”?  Do they burn out because of the factor (for us) of time?  I understand how the scientists come to that – especially if we take that it take a certain amount of light years for the light of a certain star to reach us, here on the planet Earth, but we use our way of measurement with what we believe to be science.  We get to where we are because of our science – but do you remember how you told me there are millions of Grand theories?  Maybe our science has evolved, but maybe our science we use is not the only one around?  Because we are using our measurement standards and subject other stars to it – by for instance the use of our concept of time.  Because if I put myself in the sun’s position, I would not even be able to tell day from night – as how would I know as I am the cause of day and night to others.  Would I know dark from light, if I am the light?  So can we really subject the stars to our little measurement of time, like day and night?

I also know that if we make a fire, with wood, it goes dead at some point – as it burns out.  But what I do not understand, is how we can subject stars to our belief of time and say that a certain star died.  Is it linked to our making of fire with wood? We are living in the dual world of night and day, of life and death – but are the rest of the Universe or Universes subject to that duality? 

 

I know in Lor75+76 I wrote and asked if we are in a dying Universe, where even the stars are subject to death and birth.  (And when I say dying Universe, I mean that the objects in the Universe are subject to birth and death – not that the Universe as a whole is dying, only that all in it are subject to that birth and death duality).  Maybe it was just me running around in circles in that letter where I asked about the circular “thing” that the Universe turn out to be for us – and it seems were getting me no where.

Talking about circular things, I remember Nietzsche in some or other way found a way in circular way to solve certain philosophical questions.  But that I have not enough knowledge about that to talk about it, but what does stand out about that man for me, was that he had this little story about a madman who ran out on the plain and said to the people, that God is dead and we killed Him.  This story I just love, still up till today and has stuck with me.  I always thought that with our understandings of God, we were close to this little story of Nietzsche.

 

Lor, please don’t take my marvelling about the birth and death of stars seriously, as I know nothing about that subject – in fact, I know nothing about science and leave it up to the scientists, as they know much more than I do.  I failed physics at University and because I could not understand it, I did not even have it as a subject at school.

But I will speak again to you later…

 

LOVE

Renee

22/01/2006  14:09 or 14 again, as 14 were the minutes that the first of today’s letters started with and now is the end time for this letter as well.    

 

22/01/2006 14:24 turning 25

 

Dear Lore

 

I was lying down now for a while and my head made me aware of the fact that my whole body feels “active” at the moment.  After the previous letter I wrote.  But then I thought, so what do I do with that now – the way my body is feeling at the moment?  And my head showed me that:  I can think, for one or being better understood, I can think 41…

And if you look at the end of the previous letter, then 41 is just the inverse of 14 and you know by now which I link the 14 41 combination with.

 

What I am wondering, is where and when am I going to find all the solutions to all these questions that have come up since I started writing to you in 2004 (and if you look at the beginning minutes of this letter, it is 24 turning 25).

 

Anyway…

 

LOVE

Renee

22/01/2006 14:30 and 14 on clock is 2 and 2 + 3 = 5 and so does 1 + 4 and 4 + 1.

 

 

22/01/2006 14:41 (and my legs were very restless and forced me now, together with my head, to get to the computer and start writing – and only after I viewed the time, did I realize why I felt so uncomfortable in order to get me to the computer.)

 

Dear Lore

 

I do not know why, but I am sure I have written about this to you before.  But it is a subject that came up again while I was visiting my friend Len on Thursday.  He also bought Bible Code 2 now for himself.  But what was outstanding for me in that book was how the author wrote how he was looking for some obelisk that is according to the bible code “swallowed” in the area of Masada and also where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found.  The author made trips there and were scanning the area with some scientific equipment to find that obelisk, but my question is just, can’t one view a cave as some mouth in a mountain and see it as “swallowing” some obelisk which could be the Dead Sea scrolls that were put in some kind of pots (obelisk).  According to the author these obelisks are carrying the answer to the future for us apparently.  I don’t know, as it just seemed to me logical that one can perceive a cave also as a mouth in the mountain?  And this is the second (2) chapter in Bible Code 2 – and this gives us 2 2’s or 22.

 

LOVE

Renee

22/01/2006 14:51 and 5 (1 + 4) + 6 (5 + 1) = 11.

 

22/01/2006 15:49 or 3:13 or 313

 

Dear Lore

 

I am wondering what it is about this life, especially this time of the day, that seems to make life unbearable for me.  What is it that I am missing, is it something I am missing, what is it?

 

I am sitting here and feeling miserable and seems I cannot find the cause

 

Renee

22/01/2006 15:57 or 3:12 or 312 again. This letter ends the same time as the one on

the last one on the 20^th has ended.  This gives that the end of the last on 20, is the same as the end of the last on 22.